artemisgarden:

fandomsandfeminism:

allinom:

fandomsandfeminism:

Ugh. Yes. 
I find the Snape/Lily narrative to be really horrific, honestly. The fact that we are asked to feel oh so bad for poor little Snape makes me a little bit queasy. 
Because, yes, I do sympathize with Snape for having a rough childhood. 
But he was a horrible friend to Lily. He ignored her feelings. He screamed racial slurs at her. He favored the idealized version of her he had built up in his mind over the REAL her (I think it is significant that James’ patronus is a STAG, showing compatibility with Lily; while Snape is a DOE, showing a mimicry of Lily). That idealization and inability to reconcile how his own actions contributed to the failure of their friendship literally KILLED Lily.
I understand that we can show some sympathy for him. Watching someone self destruct their own relationships because of abuse and peer pressure and the tribulations of childhood? That’s tragic. 
But then he grows up to emotionally abuse Lily’s son for having a physical resemblance to her husband. 
And we’re supposed to feel sorry for him? We’re supposed to think it’s lovely and sweet that Harry names his child after the teacher who emotionally abused him for years? Who emotionally abused OTHER children for years as well? 
The fans who sit around and cry about how Lily SHOULD have picked Snape, how Snape DESERVED her? How James was a horrible douche and Lily was a bitch for choosing him? Ugh. No. nno no no no on oonononononononoooooo. 

also snape actually ruined a mans career fully knowing he probably couldn’t get another one.

Oh the shit that went down with Remus makes me really want to break his teeth. 
Remus had been HOMELESS. Remus had spent much of his adult life implied to be on the streets, unable to find work, and completely unable to make new friendships or relationships after Lily and James died, Peter vanished, and Sirius went to jail (ALL of which is DIRECTLY Snape’s god damn fault.)
And then just as Remus picks himself back up again? Becomes a positive force and father figure to Harry? Snape deliberately and purposely gets him FIRED so that he will be unemployed and potentially homeless AGAIN. 
How the fuck am I supposed to show any sympathy for an adult who completely lacks the ability to show sympathy, or even human decency, to others? 

So, please show me the parts where it ever says he ignores Lily’s feelings? This is a thing I need to see. He called her a name ONCE OUT OF PURE EMBARRASSMENT, because he was hanging upside down in his motherfucking UNDERWEAR. Then, he threatened to sleep in front of the Gryffindor common room until she came down and heard his apology.
I have zero sympathy for the Marauders because it was always four on one. Have any of you actually read the books? SIRIUS TRIED TO KILL SNAPE BY SENDING HIM TO THE SHRIEKING SHACK WHILE REMUS WAS TRANSFORMING INTO A WEREWOLF!! Because he thought it was funny!! James barely managed to save his life.
James and Lily’s death was partly his fault true, but when they died he switched sides and spent his entire adult life working for the greater good, saving more lives than would have been saved if he hadn’t been a spy the whole time. 
So you can take your argument about Snape being a bad person and piss off with it.

Here is my analysis of a moment in “Prince’s Tale” where he CLEARLY ignored Lily’s feelings, while at the same time showing both possessiveness and entitlement to her attention:
He may have switched sides and done some good, but NEVER forget that he emotionally ABUSED children as a teacher. Harry, Hermione, and Neville all were victims of emotional abuses in his classroom, and that is disgusting. 
And if you think he was justified in getting Remus fired (and thus HOMELESS) again, then I don’t even have time for you. 
Snape did some noble things, but he was still a shitty shitty person. 

artemisgarden:

fandomsandfeminism:

allinom:

fandomsandfeminism:

Ugh. Yes. 

I find the Snape/Lily narrative to be really horrific, honestly. The fact that we are asked to feel oh so bad for poor little Snape makes me a little bit queasy. 

Because, yes, I do sympathize with Snape for having a rough childhood. 

But he was a horrible friend to Lily. He ignored her feelings. He screamed racial slurs at her. He favored the idealized version of her he had built up in his mind over the REAL her (I think it is significant that James’ patronus is a STAG, showing compatibility with Lily; while Snape is a DOE, showing a mimicry of Lily). That idealization and inability to reconcile how his own actions contributed to the failure of their friendship literally KILLED Lily.

I understand that we can show some sympathy for him. Watching someone self destruct their own relationships because of abuse and peer pressure and the tribulations of childhood? That’s tragic. 

But then he grows up to emotionally abuse Lily’s son for having a physical resemblance to her husband. 

And we’re supposed to feel sorry for him? We’re supposed to think it’s lovely and sweet that Harry names his child after the teacher who emotionally abused him for years? Who emotionally abused OTHER children for years as well? 

The fans who sit around and cry about how Lily SHOULD have picked Snape, how Snape DESERVED her? How James was a horrible douche and Lily was a bitch for choosing him? Ugh. No. nno no no no on oonononononononoooooo. 

also snape actually ruined a mans career fully knowing he probably couldn’t get another one.

Oh the shit that went down with Remus makes me really want to break his teeth. 

Remus had been HOMELESS. Remus had spent much of his adult life implied to be on the streets, unable to find work, and completely unable to make new friendships or relationships after Lily and James died, Peter vanished, and Sirius went to jail (ALL of which is DIRECTLY Snape’s god damn fault.)

And then just as Remus picks himself back up again? Becomes a positive force and father figure to Harry? Snape deliberately and purposely gets him FIRED so that he will be unemployed and potentially homeless AGAIN. 

How the fuck am I supposed to show any sympathy for an adult who completely lacks the ability to show sympathy, or even human decency, to others? 

So, please show me the parts where it ever says he ignores Lily’s feelings? This is a thing I need to see. He called her a name ONCE OUT OF PURE EMBARRASSMENT, because he was hanging upside down in his motherfucking UNDERWEAR. Then, he threatened to sleep in front of the Gryffindor common room until she came down and heard his apology.

I have zero sympathy for the Marauders because it was always four on one. Have any of you actually read the books? SIRIUS TRIED TO KILL SNAPE BY SENDING HIM TO THE SHRIEKING SHACK WHILE REMUS WAS TRANSFORMING INTO A WEREWOLF!! Because he thought it was funny!! James barely managed to save his life.

James and Lily’s death was partly his fault true, but when they died he switched sides and spent his entire adult life working for the greater good, saving more lives than would have been saved if he hadn’t been a spy the whole time. 

So you can take your argument about Snape being a bad person and piss off with it.

Here is my analysis of a moment in “Prince’s Tale” where he CLEARLY ignored Lily’s feelings, while at the same time showing both possessiveness and entitlement to her attention:

He may have switched sides and done some good, but NEVER forget that he emotionally ABUSED children as a teacher. Harry, Hermione, and Neville all were victims of emotional abuses in his classroom, and that is disgusting. 

And if you think he was justified in getting Remus fired (and thus HOMELESS) again, then I don’t even have time for you. 

Snape did some noble things, but he was still a shitty shitty person.